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on the no budget, no pay act. this bill will raise the debt ceiling for three months with the provision that both houses of congress must pass a budget. if either body fails to achieve the task, the members' pay will be withheld. it is past time to hold the president and the liberal controlled senate accountable for out-of-control spending. if hardworking americans strive to succeed in their jobs, the senate must do theirs as well. in conclusion, god bless our troops and we will never forget september 11 and the global war on terrorism. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from rhode island seek recognition? mr. cicilline: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman from rhode island is recognized. mr. cicilline: mr. speaker, i rise today to commemorate the 40th anniversary of row v. wade, the landmark supreme court decision that formally recognized the woman's right regarding decisions on her reproductive health care. this came as a result of decades of relentless activism and litigati
. >> reporter: house republicans are expected to vote wednesday on a three- month extension of the debt ceiling - but with a stipulation the senate passes a budget in the next few months. the white house says it's ready to work towards something lasting. >> what we support is a long-term raising of the debt ceiling so that we don't have any doubt or uncertainty for businesses or the global economy about the simple proposition that the united states always pays its bills >> reporter: also on the president's radar in the next four years- comprehensive immigration reform. and in the aftermath of the newtown, connecticut school schooting - a push for congress to pass tighter gun control laws. in washington, i'm tory dunnan. >> pam: the california state university system says it needs about a quarter billion dollars more in state funding. than what governor brown is proposing in his latest budget. university officials say they need 371-million dollars for the upcoming academic year to pay for salary raises. maintenance and equipment. brown wants to give the 23- campus system 125-million extra. 10-mi
it work for the fiscal cliff debate. seems to be working for the debt ceiling debate. expect every major issue in the coming months and years to be a major campaign style event. >> obviously it sounds like there will be a lot of focus domestic issues. what about foreign policy? >> history shows us that presidents in their second term focus more on foreign policy than the first term and try to forge a legacy. bill clinton did that in his second term. barack obama will try to focus more on the middle east, maybe more on syria. the most pressing issues are domestic. his voters expect him to act on that. he will attack in the first two years. history also tells us after the midterm election of a second term president start to fade away into sort of a lame duck status. >> interesting analysis there. thank you very much, max. in more international news suicide bombers and gunmen attacked afghanistan's travel police leaving three officers dead and more than three wounded. rather assault began at dawn at the entrance to the complex, the second coordinated raid in as many weeks. taliban claim res
uncertainty about the debt ceiling that funding our national government, tax code and the rest. three months. where is the certainty in three months? we should not even be having a debate. it should be no doubt. that the full faith and credit of the united states will be honored. and that is what our constitution says. too often, house republicans have refused to acknowledge the negative impact of their actions, choosing to return to the same tired, failed strategy , one that only serves to, again, weaken our economy and undermine our middle class. that track record must end. now i'm hearing people say we should go down this path of least resistance. that's what i thought, it's an easy way out three months. but the fact is, that that is a path, a path to even more problems. as mr. crowley said a path to another cliff. our country needs a clean, long-term debt ceiling increase and a bipartisan balanced budget that protects medicare and social security, invests in the future and responsibly reduces the deficit. we all know that. we know that as we go forward to reduce the deficit we need growt
ceiling for a period of three months, and the republicans have made a big concession. they had their dance and took a moment to savor the scene. now it's time to get back to work. in his inaugural speech, the president called on both parties not to let politics get in the way of governing. >> we must act knowing that our work will be imperfect. we must act knowing that today's victories will be only partial. >> reporter: so republicans are offering a compromise on the debt ceiling. house gop members are backing off a requirement to cut $1 of spending for every dollar the debt ceiling has raised. it's a move the president has demanded. >> i do believe it is a recognition of political reality. i think we realize the president won the election. >> reporter: but republicans on capitol hill are not voting to raise the debt ceiling without getting something in return. they say in order to approve a highe debt limit, they want senate democrats to do something they haven't done in four years -- pass a budget. >> for us to have a debate about spending and debt, we've
on some loan as early as next month if the debt ceiling isn't lifted. the white house supports the measure. opponents say it just prolong uncertainty about the economy's health. >>> and the senate may decide today on a deal to curb the number of filibusters. aides say lawmakers are kploes to a compromise to limit the delays which minority partying use to kill legislation. democrats complain that republicans overuse filibusters to block their legislation. republicans say the tactic is the only leverage they have to get roll call votes on amendments that would otherwise be shots down by democrats. >>> 4:08 the time. 23 degrees. coming up on "news4 today," how vice president joe biden is using the web site google today to make a push for tighter gun control. >>> the legal trouble mounting for lance armstrong since he confessed to using performance enhancing drugs. >>> we're tracking winter weather this morning. we'll have snow across the region. tom kierein is back with your weather and traffic. >>> somebody forgot to shut off the water. check out this fountain in bryant park in new york city
these problems. >> can i ask you about a quick question on raising the debt ceiling for three months without the corresponding budget cuts, is that something you support? >> yes, i'm saying yes i would vote for it, but what i want to do is i want a solution. we need the senate to do it's job. they have to pass a budget in this country so we can get to reconciliation and work our differences out. >> thanks for being with us, it's nice to see you. >> ahead this morning, we're going to talk about secretary clinton's testimony. there's a lot of things that have not been answered. >> she took responsibility, but that doesn't wipe away the fact it happened. it's a cover up -- >> cover up is a strong word. >> there has been a lot of dancing around the issue. >> ambassador rice was getting the kind of questions that frankly only secretary clinton can be answers. >> we have coverage of the testimony with wolf blitzer. >>> it is a bitter, blistery, and deadly cold snap. in chicago, more than 300 firefighters had to fight a warehouse fire in single digit temperatures. the building, this morning, is cov
to be working for the debt ceiling debate.at expect every major issue in the coming months and years to be a major campaign style eve. >> obviously it sounds like there will be a lot of focus domestic issues. what about foreign policy? >> history shows us that presidents in their second term focus more on foreign policy than the first term and try to forge a legacy. bill clinton did that in his second term. barack obama will try to focus more on the middle east, maybe more on syria. the most pressing issues are domestic. his voters expect him toct on that. he will attack in the first two years. history also tells us after the midterm election of a second term president start to fade away into sort of a lame duck status. >> interesting analysis there. thank you very much, max. in more international news suicide bombers and gunmen attacked afghanistan's travel police leaving three officers dead and more than three wounded. rather assault began at dawn at the entrance to the complex, the second coordinated raid in as many weeks. taliban claim responsibility. it is feared there could be
not going to fight over the debt ceiling over the next three months, get na out of the way for 90 days and then focus on the continuing resolution, on the sequester. because they fit exactly what the president said. this is real spending. i mean, under our constitution, nothing can be spent that the house does not pass. and so, the house republicans really have an opportunity to set a whole new standard not trying to figure out what kind of deal obama wants, but deciding what in good conscience they're willing to past. >> mike: in your experience as speaker of the mouse and somebody who as really engineered the republican takeover of the house back in the 1994 elections, speak to what you advise republicans to do in dealing with the president? because he's going to come out saying it's all the republicans fault they won't work with me. >> first of all shall every republican should take the two quotes you've given them tonight. post them on their website, every single house and senate republican and say i am very impressed with this earlier vision of barack obama. i think that he had it
to decide that they were not going to fight over the debt ceiling over the next three months, get na out of the way for 90 days and then focus on the continuing resolution, on the sequester. because they fit exactly what the president said. this is real spending. i mean, under our constitution, nothing can be spent that the house does not pass. and so, the house republicans really have an opportunity to set a whole new standard not trying to figure out what kind of deal obama wants, but deciding what in good conscience they're willing to past. >> mike: in your experience as speaker of the mouse and somebody who as really engineered the republican takeover of the house back in the 1994 elections, speak to what you advise republicans to do in dealing with the president? because he's going to come out saying it's all the republicans fault they won't work with me. >> first of all shall every republican should take the two quotes you've given them tonight. post them on their website, every single house and senate republican and say i am very impressed with this earlier vision of barack obama.
ceiling skirmish every quarter, every three months, nobody is going to like that, especially the markets, and for very good reason. if what they're say something we're not going to play debt ceiling leverage anymore, which has obviously been the president's position, that's good. my feeling is it's probably the latter. i think there are enough kind of economic grown-ups in the room to really control the folks who have threatened to use that kind of leverage. >> but the senate has not had a budget resolution pass through the senate in, what is it, four years now? >> april, 2009. >> that feels to me pretty shameful frankly. i don't know the politics and i'm not exactly sure why that's the case, but isn't that a critical step in bridging the gap and making progress on these issues where you can not go to these sort of extra legal things like using the debt ceiling as leverage, but you can use the process as it is intended to be used. >> i agree, and it's an interesting quid pro quo for the republicans to agree to the first three months of extension of the debt ceiling. >> and to hold their
to do it now. it was a price house conservatives demanded for delaying the debt ceiling just by three months. so this is a deal that republicans made with their members just this week, a deal that will define our budget arguments over the next week. they made this deal, if you don't force us into a politically disastrous showdown, we'll do it with an equally disastrous budget deal. i don't understand what is happening in the republican party right now, but it is not good for them. joining me now, robert greenstein, a man who always understands exactly what is happening. bob, good to see you. >> good to see you, ezra. >> so i guess my question is how, how do you make the budget balance in ten years, and keep to all of these different promises? do you know budget -- you know budgets better than anybody i know, so how? >> so there are three things to start with, and you have already mentioned perhaps the most important. he will take advantage of the revenue increases from the fiscal cliff deal. the second thing is since ryan issued his budget a year ago, the congressional budget office w
said we will raise the debt ceiling for a couple months and, you know, there you go. we haven't gotten any of the real work done? >> it was a short-term punt but i think it was pretty shrewd move by the republicans because you can't default on our debt. if interest rates went up even slightly the amount of interest we would have to pay on our $16 trillion debt would be enormous. you can't do that. it would be shooting ourself in the foot. they tried closing down the government back in the 1990s. that didn't didn't work too well. they're focusing on what is called the sequester, which are across the board spending reductions. that's where i think they will make their stand. we'll have a good robust debate about the level of spending we'll have in this country. the cuts in the sequester are too much for the pentagon for republicans to like. that will be focus rather than having republicans blamed for defaulting on the debt or shutting down the government. that was a shrewd move on their part. melissa: everybody talks about we need to get entitlement spending uncontrol. we need to balance
of the year. now this extension of the debt ceiling free or four months. the economy cannot withstand at this point. >> well, that is one of the biggest problems. >> definitely not optimal. cheryl: exactly. you're right. what do you say? >> it is one of the biggest problems we have had in the economy, investors like certainty. they want to know what their tax rate will be, what their credit rating agencies are going to do. delicate washington and scratch their heads because they're not getting much certainty. the only certainty they have gotten is the fact that their taxes are going up astronomically. and a lot of business people across the country are hoping that would be coupled with a lot of spending restraint so that we would not give further downgraded by the credit rating agencies and that we could actually get ourselves on a glide path toward a balanced budget. you have to give paul ryan a lot of credit. both of your guests are doing that by saying he is at least putting a plan out. harry reid is not put a plan out for four years. talk about breaking the regular budget order, i
to pay off the debt ceiling for another three months. we emerge from almost crisis to almost crisis through the next year while at the same time you notorious on the other side for complaining that the problem with our economy is uncertainty. i have heard that many times than a little bit both here in this institution and in the rules committee and those that were on the political trail. now i agree that continuously threatening to fulfill our national obligations is a serious breach of economic uncertainty. but republicans seem to be attracted to this kind of dangerous gimmicks to act seriously to act on the full faith and credit of the united states. until they do, i suspect that we'll have a lot more meetings on this very issue. now as a lawyer, not a constitutional scholar, having made a lot of decisions about constitutionality as a federal judge and when i went on the bench, i was accused of being a judicial activist. and i was thrown off the bench. i was accused of being a judicial activist. and i guess that's compared to strict constructionist. and if there was ever a case, t
we're going to do, we're going to pass a three or four-month extension of the debt ceiling. then we're going to get into a fight on the sequester and hold the line of the sequester. this is a promise the leadership is making to us. as long as they keep that promise i think many conservatives will be ok with that. then when we get to the debt ceiling fight we're going to ask for at a minimum the one--- the one-for-one cuts that come from the boehner rule for any long-term debt ceiling extension system of if we look at that, it means that in 10 to 15 years, with very little help from the democrats, we can achieve a balanced budget which is much better than even the 23- to 27 -- better than the 23 years to 27 years and obviously better than the never balancing budget obama and the democrats have proposed for the last four years. so you look at all the data out there. all the public opinion polls say that the american people think we're spending too much money. that the american people think that we are taxing too much. but the problem is that as republicans, i think this goes to what r
that would extend the debt ceiling to nearly four months in the white house just said the president would sign it. congressman, the president and the white house coming out saying he would approve of this. do you believe the president is being earnest in his convictions on the debt ceiling? >> it is good news is agreeing in principle to sign the bill. that gives us through may the 18th to come up with a plan to really reform government reform spending and pass a permanent debt ceiling increase for the remainder of this year. we want to give the president senate democrats an opportunity to work with us but house republicans are committed to addressing the spending issues straight up in the next three months, three and a half months and get the job done. cheryl: a look at your voting record and you voted no on the fiscal cliff despite the fact the fiscal cliff deal past and here we are now. chuck schumer already speaking out on the democratic side saying we will look at this, but we're also going to want to increase taxes. that was a flat-ou flat out linm senator schumer. will the senate ra
of traders and investors anticipate a similar situation with the debt ceiling. whether we get this extension of three months or whether overnight some kind of resolution to it is being done it seems like the general consensus is this thing will be fixed and we will be able to move on and look forward past it. there's a blast of winter rushing through the u.s. this week. what will that mean for natural gas prices? we have seen natural gas prices climb aggressively off their lows. we pushed through 350 last week. we also had a draw down in their storage report. we're expecting another draw down going forward. but as far as other similar markets like crude oil and heating oil we've also seen quite a bit of demand for the. crude oil has a little bit more geopolitical tension so you are seeing the bent crude start to pick up a little bit more than west texas. but i think all these markets still look pretty good going forward. thank you philip. thank you. the bi-weekly paychecks most of us receive every other friday have been a little smaller since the first of the year. --the result of the payrol
have a debt ceiling. they will do this for three months. april 15th, back to the debate. they folded a little bit. they said they absolutely wouldn't deal with the debt ceiling. a half measure, they will suspend it. eric cantor coming here to take part in a panel on friday afternoon about economic dynamism. i'm surprised that anybody from davos is inviting americans to talk about it. i'm not sure what he will get out of it. he will be here and hopefully we can speak to him about what's going on in the u.s. and in the world. >> the u.s. and europe leading the world, not so much. when you go to davos, they are talking about other big players. ali velshi, thanks. >>> 15 minutes after the hour. other news around the world. from the upper midwest to the mid-atlantic and new england, seeing and feeling the coldest temperatures so far this winter. feels like 7 degrees in washington, d.c. near zero in new york city. and well below zero in fargo, north dakota. this arctic blast is reportedly blamed for four deaths so far. >>> in the cold, more than 300 firefighters had to deal with 7-degree t
black. republican representative to tennessee. it extends the debt ceiling limit for another three months. welcome, good to have you with us. >> good to be with you, tyler. >> in the last few minute, chief washington correspondent, put out the idea that this vote, or this change of tactics, in the midst of the fiscal discussion, effectively may take the debt ceiling off the table as a bargaining chip. not just for this go round but going into the future. do you see it that way? is the debt ceiling no longer a legitimate tool for use? >> i think that that is exactly what we are doing and requiring that there will be a budget passed by the senate. obviously if you don't have a budget pass in four years now that democrat controlled senate has not passed a budget. you can't get to the point of talking about how you control your spending. we know that washington has a spending problem. this is a way that we can get them to do what they are stat torely required to do. so we are really hoping that this will make it so that they come up with a budget that we can actually talk about. >> so
the republicans were down and out. think again, the house will vote for a three-month ceiling on the debt seen and comes with a price. g.o.p. leaders said they would vote for the extension, but that the measure would also require the democratic controlled senate to pass a budget and if ne do ththey fail that, pay for lawmakers will be withheld. and we've got to look at the house and spending problem. no budget, no pay. joining me now with reaction. congressman david schweiker and walldon. i was skeptical when i heard the republicans are giving in already. i had a couple of discussions this weekend, and some of your colleagues, explain the rational. number within, they say sequestration that's cuts are going into effect and force the president and senate to come one a budget and the senate didn't pass a budget in three and a half years. i liked it more when it was explained to me. is that about right. >> i think it is, sean and about time the senate did the legal responsibility of passing the budget we passed one each the last two years we'ven been in the majority. the ryan plan laid out how to
increase of the debt ceiling. they want a much longer increase. >> ideally we would extend, raise the debt ceiling for a long period of time so that this is not a question, the uncertainty surrounding as of late 20 political strategy house republicans have taken will be removed. >> the senate will take this bill up and pass the bill, so feebly the white house and the senate, it is a done deal. now, and the senate and the house putting a budget together. john boehner said his budget republicans will release shortly will balance the budget in 10 years. david: rich edson, one of the best reporters i know in washington. we are awaiting the numbers on apple. the stock is about 30% off of the all-time high in fall. could we see the earnings decline for the first time in almost 10 years? keep it right here, a very important our coming straight up. sandra: seaway president of iceland is against big bank bailouts. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. sandra: you think our ranking crisis was ba back in 2008? it wa
to imagine -- we talked earlier about the fiscal cliff and debt ceiling. it is clear there is legislative gridlock in this town. what happens in the months to come with this kind of gridlock -- we already see the battle lines being drawn about what is to happen when these entitlements did on the table with in march. what happens to the poor as you see it in the coming months? >> let me first say, thank you so much for allow me to be part of this conversation. i am happy that you have been carrying on this kind of conversation over the last few years. let me try and see if i can put something in context for you -- i think that is something we never really talk about. a lot of this fiscal cliff stuff is really smoke and mirrors -- when you sit back and realize the largest portion of the debt of this country is really three things -- one is two wars we never paid for, what is a medicare part that we never paid for, and the other part is the bush tax cuts. those of the largest portions of the debt of this nation. what they're trying to do now by cutting what you call entitlements and i call a
the "state of the union" and see the budget. but republicans decided not to make the debt ceiling a big issue. was a three budget extension and a month supporter of no pay with no budget but we need to focus on spending. it is a problem but we do need more investment was critical infrastructure but they have to be coupled with a concrete and forceful proposal to deal with deficits. neil: hope springs eternal as they went to the party of president has been reelected to undo what bill clinton tried to do not big government as the enemy but efficient doing the will of the people without wasting the money but this president might be the most liberal since fdr not to know if his way is the right way but it could be his way or the highway. we will see you tomorrow.
the debt ceiling to another we three months tied to pay. what is the strategy? >> i don't think the g.o.p. have one. i saw a high ranking aide to the house leadership this weekend and he told me that --. >> hobnobbing with powerful people. >> they said they turned the corner and this was a shrewd move. i see it as you, a real problem that indicates that at best the republicans have tactical responses. bottom line, the spot getting his way. >> shell shocked from the election or leaderless or both or what? >> all of it. they did not think they would lose as badly as they did right up to election night. they have never gotten a handle on why, and we have a faction of hard right tea party people in the republican caucus in the house that will not let the moderate members, even really talk to obama, talking or compromise is out. >> was there an agenda missing? >> growing the economy. >> they are the most strategic group of people. though can not figure out what they believe in and how to fight obama. >> are they on the wrong side of social issues? >> shear what they should do. they could b
they will allow the debt ceiling to be hiked and try to attach some spending cuts or at least say we need to be engaged in negotiations for further increase in debt hike. i think that was a recession for republicans in reality they were losing this argue uchlt. it reengineers to the point that 60 percent of americans think you have to have spending cuts right now. >> you listen to the president's senior advisor today he was talking again about a balanced approach saying whatever deal on the debt ceiling has to have tax loopholes closed. speaker boehner brought the 800 billion in loop whole closures in the beginning of the fiscal cliff negotiation that should be a part of this deal. despite the fact that the president wanted rate increase on the fiscal deal and that's all they want. >> you can see the democrats and white house believe they have the argument in their back pocket. they offered once they can call on it again if they are going to concede on any spending cuts. none have been discussed at least in the short term are going to solve the problem. the only way you solve the problem
the debt ceiling for three months and tell democrats we will do what no label said they will do. we will say pass a budget for the first time in four years, democrats. we will pass a budget and work together to try to solve the crisis. >> for almost seems like the hard thing, neither side wants to have to do. at some point, we will go off a cliff as a country and as a society. we have to do hard things in order to get the fiscal situation under control so that we don't pass down to our children a terrible economy and terrible future financially and also in terms of guns. other social issues. the issues related to the gun issue. mental health and violence in the media. we have to do this. both parties do not want to do the hard things. >> you make an interesting point. all have a cost whether it's a financial cost or emotional cost. it has a cost to the greater society and what the american people i think have been saying for about four or five years now, maybe you would agree with that. going back to the tail end of the bush years. that stood out in stark c
warned the country could default on some loans as early as next month if the debt ceiling isn't lifted. >>> 6:48 now. a local company reporting major losses. they say the reason is defense cuts. cnbc has more live. kayla, good morning. >>> good morning, aaron. general dynamics, one of the nation's biggest federal contractors, reported a huge quarterly loss on wednesday, blaming it largely on defense cuts. the company which is based in falls church, virginia, posted a $2 billion fourth quarter loss on lower than expected sales as shrinking government orders and writedowns hammered the maker of weapon and aircraft. stock dropped as much as 5% in trading before recovering to close up about 1%. analyst attribute that to reassuring comments from the company ceo. >>> the washington's dependence on government and defense contracts makes it vulnerable to the spending cuts put in place by president obama and congress between 2000 and 2010. government procurement spending grew by double digits. last year it fell by more than 5%. back to you. >> thank you. >>> redskins players are being warn good
between debt ceiling and for the three-month moment, then fine. i don't think it was a big deal today in terms of whether the house leadership and the senate leadership were in agreement. what the big deal about it, it's the wrong path to go down. what they're saying is, if you want to get paid, let's make sure seniors pay by eliminating the medicare guarantee. you want to get paid, let's make sure children, people with disabilities and other seniors, long-term health care pay the price. children, investments in their future, their education, their personal fulfillment and aspirations of their families and global competitiveness of america, that will pay a price, too. and our veterans will pay. do you want your pay check, this is the budget that goes with it. i think it's all wrong, but the fact is, the one part that has shall we say some appeal was that it was a recognition that for three months and for today, would be connected to the debt ceiling. i don't know if any of you follow -- what you do at night, but last night i watched the ways and means committee hearing run very late a
. republicans in the house are expected to vote on a plan that would diffuse the debt ceiling crisis. the federal government could keep borrowing money for three months, in exchange house develop members want the senate to pass a budget, something that body has not done since 2009, exactly 1,365 days ago. this time instead of demanding spending cuts, republicans added a provision to the bill that would suspend lawmakers own paychecks if a budget is failed to be passed by april 15th. >> most americans believe if you don't do your job you don't get paid. that's the basis for no budget no pay. it's time for the senate to act. i think the american people understand that you can't continue to spend money that you don't have it's time for us to come to a plan that will, in fact, balance the budget over the next ten years. it's our commitment to the american people. we hope the senate will do their budget as they should have done over the last four years. >> boehner's plan getting a pretty good reception. the club for growth which led the revolt against his plan b proposal last round, said
for a temporary lift to the debt ceiling. the house is expected to approve legislation on wednesday that would raise the debt limit for three months without any cuts to spending. members of the congress believe they can come up with a spending plan during that window. honda of campbell also introduced legislation for a back up plan that would prevent the worse fiscal cliff. >> i think we should have a process that addresses that so that it doesn't become a barrier or a political football. >> the last time lawmakers fought over the debt ceiling two years ago the country's credit rating was downgraded. >>> on wall street, stocks closed higher despite mixed earnings. >>> president obama began the first day of his second term with a traditional postinaugural prayer service. the president and first lady were joined by vice president biden and his wife at the washington cathedral this morning. the national prayer service dates back to the first inauguration of george washington. the interfaith service included prayers and readings from christian denominations along with islam, judisim and the sikh r
think they are losing ground on fiscal issues. on the debt ceiling, it made no sense to risk the full faith and credit of the united states for whatever agenda you have. the business community felt that. the public felt that. and so the fact that they have backed off both -- not only the idea that we should hold debt ceiling hostage, but second that it shouldn't be one for one cuts, you know, boehner used to say that, the house proposal doesn't say that, dollar in cutting for every dollar in raising the debt ceiling. >> would you support a short-term measure to force you to pass a budget? >> i think it should be longer because we don't want to play fiscal cliff every three months. but it's a positive step. >> you never get a clean debt ceiling raise. >> yes, you should. >> that's not a question of whether you should. but historically it's not been the case. >> mitch mcconnell proposed it two years ago and we passed it. but let me say this on the budget. we democrats have always intended to do a budget this year. for two reasons. first, it is not true that we haven't had budget control
, they're going to introduce their bill, vote on their bill to extend the debt ceiling for three months, give themselves a little running room, but this is a president who is going to be aggressive about his agenda. he didn't just talk over republicans, he went right after them, talking about takers, s saying that's not what social security and medicare are, a jab not only at mitt romney but paul ryan, who he will be dealing with. >> when you have a guy who has bullied you in the schoolyard for four years and you finally fight the bully and you beat them like he just did in this election, you're not as afraid of the bully as you was or at least cautious. i think they bullied this president. he went to the mat and re-elected with a wider margin than george bush and saying the bullying is over. we're either going to fight or work together. >> the problem is both sides feel like they were bullied over the past four years and they've got to figure out how to work together over the next four years. i want to talk about yesterday with you quickly and open it up. it struck me as a son of the s
a debt ceiling raiseded, that will be raised for a year, maybe two. that's all we're going to get, and we'll be in the soup and having the same conversation. >> do you think that's true even if -- i mean, this is a pie in the sky scenario. what if the republicans lose the house in 2014? we are looking at the numbers as they do, they lost -- the notion that they could get a balanced budget plan in ten years is basically poppy cock, and would you have to cut discretionary spending in half in order to do that. >> frank is also right. democrats will have to come to the table too. you have to ultimately balance the budget. you can'tco what we're doing no matter what side of the aisle you're on, and so, you know, whether you think the democrats take the house or whether the republicans keep the house, ultimately something has to happen, and by the way, i do expect the democrats will come to the table with something because i think if they don't, i think that the general public is actually much more in the middle than after the election results ultimately suggests. >> oh, andrew. >> that is a gr
. you get very small advances. i recommended last week, that in return for a temporary debt ceiling for three months, the the return to the senate and produce a budget. they adopted the idea and they have already succeeded. the senate will now produce a budget, which will allow the fight to be a fair fight between democrats and republicans on spending because the other side will finally have to show its cards. this is a fairly elementary step. that is how i think they ought to proceed. second, they have to understand that obama will try to use administrative actions because the house will block actions by legislation, which is why i am extremely encouraged by the ruling you may remain i've heard by the first circuit today, throwing out the nlrb appointment. [applause] i have been quite shocked by the of lawlessness of the administration by legislating around congress in a way that i think is clearly unconstitutional. for example, passing the dream act. however you stand on the dream at, i should be done by congress and not by the administration. and it did that. because if a conserv
deescalation on the debt ceiling issue. it hands the president his second major win in a month. and it shows that republicans are in full on retreat on fiscal policy. >> meanwhile, speaker boehner offering his interpretation of president obama's inauguration speech and what he sees as the president's two agenda for the second term. >> we're expecting over the next 22 months to be the focus of this administration as they attempt to annihilate the republican party. and let me just tell you, i do believe that is their goal. to just shove us into the dust bin of history. >> the pentagon today is set to announce a major policy shift involving women in the military. women will now be allowed to serve in full combat roles. that could potentially include elite commando units and positions directly in the line of fire. nbc chief pentagon correspondent has more on the ground breaking announcement. >> reporter: for the past ten years, u.s. military women have served at the front lines in both iraq and afghanistan. but never allowed in direct ground combat roles. lifting the 20-year ban against women in
. and house nearly three months to raise the debt ceiling. >> look, i understand why they want to move the initiative forward and i think there is some strategicty to the way they're doing it it and i believe the second part the of it it, congress shouldn't get paid unless a budget is passed. no one wants to miss a paycheck certainly, but i think it's a very valid point and i think that it's not unfair to say to the people if you're not going to do your job, you shouldn't get paid. >> greta: and we keep getting these, like goal posts and mile posts and three more months. >> absolutely. >> greta: six more months and another excuse-- >> in fairness, i think it's the house. if they believed they could pass a bill out of house that not only dealt with the debt limit, but with our debt problem and passed out of the senate and signed by the president they would do it in a heartbeat. that's not what they're facing. they want facing a president that wants unconditional limits and the senate hasn't passed a budget in days. i think they're trying to make the best of a bad situation. absolutely w
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